No One Injured in Buena Vista Shooting

A man armed with a handgun shot repeatedly at another man on Buena Vista Avenue but missed

An attempted homicide on Buena Vista Avenue left the intended target uninjured, the Alameda Police Department reported Tuesday night.

Police said a man drove up to a house in the 700 block of Buena Vista Avenue shortly after 5 p.m. and called out for the victim, an adult man whose identity has not been released, by name.  When the victim appeared at a window, the suspect fired a handgun at him multiple times, police said.

The victim was not injured, police said.

Police officers canvassed the area but were not able to locate the shooter. An investigation is continuing, police said.

Michael April 25, 2012 at 11:47 PM
Updated news story about the shooting. Mentions two recent homicides in the neighborhood. http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20479412/alameda-police-continue-investigate-shooting
HappyOne April 26, 2012 at 12:19 AM
Section 8 has nothing to do with this crime. Why would you even say something like that? Section 8 is an excellent program for those that cannot buy their own home or afford to rent. It's these types of programs that we need more of to help the less unfortunate. I don't mind paying extra in taxes so that someone who is disabled or has children, or who is down on their luck, etc. so that they can have a home. I was born and raised in Alameda, I know this area all too well..section 8 is not what put a gun in someone's hand n have them starting shooting at the apt. The person to blame is the one who attempted homicide, but to sit here and say get rid of section 8, is just plain nonsense.
Dora April 26, 2012 at 12:27 AM
I live next door to the house that was shot at - there were bullet casings in my driveway. These neighbors have been a problem for many years: drugs, fights, alcohol-related incidents, and we have asked the landlord to have them evicted. She refuses. The problem here is not Section 8 but landlords who won't do the right thing. As we have been told by the police numerous times, the landlord is the ONLY one who can evict them. She ignores her neighbors requests so I am hoping this incident will force the city to put pressure on her. Even the cops said to call the mayor about this negligent landlord. If people would take responsibility for what goes on in their property this would not be an issue. My only wish now is that neighbors continue to get involved in getting removed.
Dora April 26, 2012 at 12:35 AM
I would like to correct something that is mentioned by Alamedian: The incident did not take place at Rosefield Village. I do not know how the tenants pay their rent but it doesn't matter. They have been, and continue to be, a nuisance. In fact, Rosefield seems peaceful compared to some of the stuff that these guys have done.
Luke April 26, 2012 at 02:00 AM
laralameda, with all due respect, it is not the APD's job to report crime to anyone. No police department in the US does that, except when requested to by media outlets. There was practically zero media interest in this incident in which no one was injured or killed. The APD has a FAR better track record of solving crimes than OPD or SFPD. I wouldn't doubt that they are working furiously on this case, pursuing leads and tips from witnesses. The APD has the time and resources to investigate and pursue leads, a luxury that the OPD and SFPD do not have. I would bet money that the APD has a suspect vehicle, and possibly even people of interest. But unless the media or local residents demand information from them, dishing out some meaningless speculation to the media, just so neighbors who are completely unaffected by the case can "know what's going on" is of zero benefit to the community at large and if anything, will hurt the case and help the perp(s).
virgo April 26, 2012 at 03:35 AM
alamedian- clearly you have your mind made up so i'm not going to sit here and argue with you. it's really sad that you're so ignorant. it didn't even happen at 700 buena vista. it was 765 buena vista and anyone can look that up on the APD daily log.
virgo April 26, 2012 at 03:40 AM
people can also ask the police who are on scene what happened. just tell them you live nearby and want to make sure you're not in any danger. they might not give all the details but they would certainly tell you that there had been a shooting.
virgo April 26, 2012 at 03:42 AM
what a horrible landlord! i can only imagine the hell you guys go through with these neighbors. you're absolutely right that landlords need to step up and get rid of tenants like this. i hope this forces her to finally act.
virgo April 26, 2012 at 03:44 AM
did you try asking the police that were on scene? in my experience, you can usually find at least one who is standing at the perimeter to make sure people don't cross the crime scene tape. they will tell you what happened if you ask. again that's just my experience but i don't see why they wouldn't tell you if you're a resident of the area.
Bald Man April 26, 2012 at 03:52 AM
It's really sad that an affluent and diverse community such as this has such fearlessly bigotted members like those that have contorted this very rare incident into a "Have " vs " Have Nots" through the opportunistic and total conjecture of a direct relationship to section 8 housing. I wonder if you are related at all to that group of seniors at Encinel that walk around freely chanting " White Power" and giving the Heil Hitler sign. It's what's also being taught in Alameda.
Bald Man April 26, 2012 at 03:56 AM
By the way, my wife and I just happened to be riding our bikes by the site of the shooting about 10 minutes after it happened and a neighbor stepped out of a house and said to my wife, " It's those Afghan people " . Haven't been here long but this community needs to take a realistic look at itself and deal with the skeletons.
Bald Man April 26, 2012 at 03:59 AM
This place has such potential.
WJay April 26, 2012 at 05:57 AM
You all make good points,but I will point out that there's far more crime on the west end than the east. There's a newspaper that I can't remember the name at this minute,that lists all calls (or as far as we know) that are called into the APD. I'd say at least 90% of the calls were in junction with the area between Webster & Poggi from Atlantic to Lincoln. With that said,MOST of the people in section 8 housing aren't causing problems. BUT,the problems are predominately coming from areas with section 8 tenants. So I agree to say that removing all sect 8 from Alameda isn't fair,but it would elimate a vast majority of the problems in Alameda. Now,with that said,who has the answer to this problem?
Dora April 26, 2012 at 02:41 PM
I also live in the area - in fact, very near to where this happened. I asked an officer what happened and he had no problem telling me. There were about six officers at one point lining the perimeter so I am sure if you had gone down there you would have had your questions answered to the best of their ability.
Alamedian April 26, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Virgo: 765 is part of the 700 block. Rosefield Village says it includes a varied type of housing, including a triplex and single family homes. If 765 isn't part of that, I apologize, but it sure sounds like they're talking about the entire block. If 765 isn't Section 8, that doesn't disprove a correlation between crime and section 8, it just disproves this one example.
Alamedian April 26, 2012 at 04:11 PM
I'll invoke Godwin's law at this point and claim victory. Way to go Bald Man. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/godwins-law
virgo April 26, 2012 at 04:29 PM
765 is actually not in the same block as 700. it's on the other side of constitution way. check it out on google maps.
Luke April 26, 2012 at 04:44 PM
There really is a group of seniors who do this regularly in Alameda??? I'd love to see this. Just because you're old doesn't mean you're wise, I guess.
Dixie Jordan (Editor) April 26, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Correlation isn't the same as causation, whether it's Section 8 or some other subject entirely. Throughout the U.S., Section 8 housing is most often placed in areas that are already relatively low income and/or have crime problems, as residents of higher-income areas oppose Section 8 units nearby. It's hard to speak to one particular Section 8 development, but it's often a "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" situation.
WJay April 26, 2012 at 05:03 PM
Good point Dixie Jordan. I guess I should ask you how long you've lived in Alameda. I only go back 30 yrs,as I moved here in 1982. So I can only relate that far back.
Dixie Jordan (Editor) April 26, 2012 at 05:09 PM
WJay, I don't live in Alameda currently, but I started working as a reporter here in the early '70s, so it's a fairly long-term perspective.
Old School April 26, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Alamedian- I guess you really don't get it. Comparing you to white supremacist's doesn't mean you won anything, it just means that you remind others of an evil group. The only thing you won is in your mind. Perhaps you should consider what would happen if you ended up down on your luck (it happens medical bills loss of job etc you never know) I am sure with your attitude all your "friends" will abandon you & hopefully there will be no government programs. Being that you're scared of low income areas where would you go?
WJay April 26, 2012 at 10:10 PM
OK,I can see more clearly where you're coming from now. I was growing up here when the Navy base was open & all the bars were on Webster st. One would think that when the bars closed,the problems went away. But the bars closed when the base closed,therefore a whole new set of problems were created . . a lot of people were put out of work. Many of these people were already residents of Alameda & (understandably) didn't want to move. And again,I reiterate,MOST of the people in section 8 homes aren't commiting crimes. But now u have a situation that has gradually increased over time & it's somewhat unfair,not to mention illegal & immoral, to say ax them all. And I'd also like to point out that Alameda isn't the only city in the bay area that has suffered from this change in demographics. I've watched the overall quality of living in Hayward & San Leandro decrease as well. Then there's cities as far out as Fairfield & even Santa Rosa. So is there really anything that can be done about the crime increase? Back in the 80's the police would actually ban people from Alameda that would continue to cause disturbances. It appears to me that they no longer practice this "technic" of crime pravention. And I'm assuming there must be a reason for that. My only solutions would be to make lots of money & stay east of Fernside,were problems are comsiderably less. Or just leave the bay area altogether and go far north or east up into the mountains. Live long enough & they'll find us eventually
Kevis Brownson April 27, 2012 at 12:35 AM
I have lived across from section 8 housing the entire time I have been in Alameda and it is no problem for crime. I am lucky that the on site landlord is very strict and does not tolerate any shenanigans. I am glad that there are people who are willing to provided good housing for those who are not as fortunate as I am.
Dora April 27, 2012 at 01:25 AM
Dear Alamedian: 765 is most assuredly NOT part of Rosefield Village. I should know, I am their neighbor and Rosefield Village is a block away from us. As was mentioned by someone else, it is on the other side of Constitution.
WJay April 27, 2012 at 02:09 AM
Well,when we were looking for a place to move to,we were told to go check a duplex on the 700 block of Haight. We went by and a guy came out of the unit downstairs and just stood there & stared us down. So when we saw the landlord again,we told her what happened & she openly explained that that unit was section 8. And we graciously said "no,thank you". Now,does that make us racist? Say what you want but I,for one,don't need to live amidst such undue friction at the cost of $2,150 a month. Is that a coincidence that it's section 8? I lived in Salt Lake City,UT. for 10 yrs,& it's all the same,just different colored skin. It's a mindset that some low-income people tend to fall into. Be it that they're angry, envious,or whatever the case may be. I grew up in the projects in the eastern U.S. and was a happy camper when we were finally able to move away. Hopefully I won't have to return. But if I ever find myself in that situation again,I hope I'll be able to live in a rural area.
Bald Man April 28, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Luke, in case you are still following this, the answer is yes there are a group of seniors over at Encinel who think it's cool to do the "white power thing and heil hitler", and I hope you are concerned enough to ask about it. If so, speak to the woman that is co-principal of the school. I brought it to her attention but my son said he had not noticed a change.
Michael April 29, 2012 at 03:29 AM
Any word from the police on progress on this case?
Dixie Jordan (Editor) April 29, 2012 at 05:58 AM
No progress to report the last time I checked, toward the end of the week.
Lou August 25, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Watch the crime increase around the former Islander Motel, which is being made into a Section 8 village. The Lexus liberals who comment above will still call it coincidence, but those of us without heads in sand will know better.


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